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Westboro Banned

Westboro Baptist Church members banned from the UK. Hmmm. I don't think I like this. Foul as Phelps & co are, they're not violent, and I don't think they directly incite violence, as far as I know. I can't help thinking the Home Office have only done this because of the Geert Wilders controversy last week, so that they can claim some kind of consistency.

Freedom of speech is supposed to be a founding stone of our democracy. Let 'em in, let us laugh at them and counter-protest. Silencing them just makes them into martyrs.

I can't help wondering if Shirley Phelps-Roper is actually joking when she says "Unless they intend to begin checking the bare backsides of every person coming into that country to find that tattoo that says 'Property of WBC' - they will have no way of identifying who is from WBC." I expect she is, but...whoa. Also, her interview with the Telegraph is great. I particularly liked this bit:

. So we go to the place where the Laramie Project is playing and you look at us, then you look at the so-called "counter-picketers" and the young people that you have taught that they can live like the very devil himself and it is JUST FINE, because even though the Bible CLEARLY says that God HATES people and it is a perfect hatred - a determination to send the UNREPINENTANT to hell for ever.

God hates people? Good to know!


Feb. 19th, 2009 06:43 pm (UTC)
You know when I did that post about judging people or otherwise? I think the way I should have phrased it was "thou shalt not phelp". :-)

Seriously, although it's a difficult one, I would be on the side of not letting them in. They are to ordinary Christians exactly what the Taliban are to ordinary Muslims; the danger is not just that they go round inciting hatred in general (which is bad enough), but that by association they turn people against ordinary members of their own faith. I don't want them here for precisely the reasons I don't want the Taliban here, even if the Taliban could somehow be prevented from actual physical violence.
Feb. 19th, 2009 06:54 pm (UTC)
Ha! Yes. I agreed with that post very much, and yeah, these are exactly the type of people who are Doing It Wrong.

I'm trying to figure out what exactly my problem is with it. I wouldn't object to them being thrown OUT of the country for inciting hatred, I don't think, it's just that refusing them entry seems to be verging on thought crime.


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