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Torchwood last night was great, even though I entirely disagreed with the ending. But it was human and atmospheric and affecting in the right ways - not too much blatant heartstring-pulling. Which meant I was very surprised to discover it was written by Chibnall. It was also beautifully shot and directed - it was a new director, Mark Everest, and I hope they get him back. (Incidentally, it's a measure of my artistic leanings that the reason I know it was so great is because I kept going "Ooh, that'd make a great LJ icon".) Also, Nekkid Janto w00t!

Links (some of them quite old, so I can't remember where I found them. But thank you, if it was through you):


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Mar. 20th, 2008 10:41 pm (UTC)
Which, someone pointed out, could equally be reported as "Salary over 25 grand will weed out the sexist, insecure jerks from your dating pool."

Couldn't agree more. I'd love to date a successful woman.

Mar. 20th, 2008 10:46 pm (UTC)
I expect most of that 54% would be people I'd never consider dating anyway for other reasons, but it still freaked me out a bit. I don't think my - or their - pay packet has ever been an issue with anyone I've dated.
Mar. 21st, 2008 01:20 am (UTC)
I'm in the position by virtue of age, seniority and choice of job whereby (were I single) it's unlikely many women in "dating range" would outearn me, as by my age many will have had career breaks and fallen behind, or hit 'glass ceilings'. Would I be bothered if someone did? No. I know a few very impressive woman of similar age to me who comfortably outearn me and that doesn't intimidate me - they've worked harder than me to get where they are and beaten the system!

I don't even ask my other half what she earns - self-employed company director whose accountant just tells her to sign the books ;)

I suspect the men who'd be scared by a woman making more than 25k are young, uneducated and in unskilled jobs - it's effectively a classist/sexist thing, nothing to do with money.

What's 25 grand these days? I'm guessing teacher in the first few years of the job, experienced staff nurse, good PA or legal secretary outside London, first couple of years of a research or lecturing career - hardly earthshatteringly high-flying or intimidating careers?
Mar. 22nd, 2008 08:48 pm (UTC)
Heh. Yeah, I do agree with you about it being a class thing mostly. And I earn over 25K and wouldn't call my job high-flying at all, so...
Mar. 21st, 2008 12:27 am (UTC)
Love the Doctor Who post, and yes, I got the joke quickly, but then I was a fan of the original series (as depicted in icon).
Mar. 21st, 2008 01:41 am (UTC)
54% of men wouldn't date a woman who earned over 25 grand

Women who make good money are, according to what I've read, far more likely to be very interested in what their bloke's prospects are. As I'm very unlikely to match that figure, I'd be taking up with someone very likely to dump me as disappointing. Going by the statistics, it'd be a very bad move.

The only time I have gone out with a woman who made that much, she dumped me as a disappointment.

Tell me again why I should be taking a different view? I like the idea of an accomplished woman as much as anyone, but on the whole I'm reluctant to be volunteering for another kick in the teeth.
Mar. 22nd, 2008 08:50 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the stuff about what women want is quite depressing too, unfortunately.

As for the latter, if she dumped you because your career wasn't promising enough, she's an idiot. But don't judge all women that earn a decent amount by her! My last boyfriend was on the dole for half our relationship and not earning that much after that, and it was never an issue.
Mar. 22nd, 2008 09:46 pm (UTC)
It wasn't the only or even the main reason, but I don't think the fact was irrelevant. I'm certainly not going to judge anyone on it morally, but when it comes to guessing whether the odds are good or not, I find it relevant.
Mar. 22nd, 2008 10:01 pm (UTC)
Oh, it definitely can be, especially if one partner wants to live a bit more lavishly than the other can afford. Luckily I spend all my money on books!
Mar. 22nd, 2008 03:10 pm (UTC)
I've always thought it was rather unfair that it's ok in the eyes of society for a woman to date/marry a man who earns a lot and not the other way around.

Personally, I rather like the notion of being a kept man. Find me a well-paid woman, I'll play house husband no problem.
Mar. 22nd, 2008 08:52 pm (UTC)
You realise you'd have to cook and do washings and things? ;)

I think women who earn a lot/ are interested in their careers are seen as unfeminine, somehow. And won't be willing to stay home and look after the kids and have dinner on the table every night...
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