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Mostly squeeee! Thoughts, in no particular order:

- I can nitpick (and will in a minute) but it was so well done I didn't mind the possibly dodgy stuff.

- Rose was fantastic this week. She's learned from the Doctor, learned what makes humans special and that they can't just give up when things look dodgy. I loved that she wouldn't give up on the Doctor being alive (though I'm not surprised as she's thought he's dead at least twice before, heh). She organised everyone *and* kept their spirits up, kept them bickering and chattering and acting like normal. Even when things kept getting progressively worse she just kept trying new things, and she knew that because the Doctor wasn't there she had to do something. I think this is sort of Who's equivalent to "With great power comes great responsibility" - if you get the privilege of travelling in the Tardis and seeing the universe, you have to do what you can to protect the people in it.

- All of the above *just about* makes up for the fact that if she'd let Jefferson shoot Toby in the first five minutes, Jefferson, the security guards and the Ood would all still be alive... I can see why she stopped him, but she could have felt some sort of guilt about it later on.

- I love that they left the explanation open so that you can a/ believe what you like about the Beast and b/ fic it like crazy. I like TV that asks you to think about your own beliefs. I liked that they questioned the Doctor about his beliefs, and challenged his beliefs, and I like his beliefs too. I admire that he's happy not to know things for sure, and that he just wants to keep seeing things and finding things out. I think a lot of people keep going in the hope that they'll be proven wrong about things - I'd love to be proven wrong about the existence of aliens or of magic, or that there's more bad things in the world than good.

- I've seen people saying that they didn't like how the Doctor seemed to believe in Rose as a god, or put Rose above everything else, but I don't think he did. He knew smashing the vases could kill Rose, but because he knew he had to do it anyway, he had to believe that Rose would do the right thing AND get out of it somehow. I think the Doctor believes in fate, too, and that Rose is not just another random victim of circumstance; that the universe wouldn't let her die like that.

- Great characterisation of the crew. Creating five believable, rounded secondary characters and making us care for them in less than 90 minutes while telling an action story is pretty damn impressive. I feel sorry for real Toby, but at least he got to be the first human to get sucked into a black hole! I have to watch last week's again, but did they say what time they were in? I'd like to hear from these characters again, especially Ida and Zack, and I know they're connected to Torchwood, but I think it was set quite far in the future?

- Yay for running up and down corridors! Yay for ventilation shafts! (Why did Jefferson say that about getting the reference? I don't get it...) Yay for freaky red eyes! Yay for the bolt gun with only one bolt! Yay for "..and you'll make the air follow us?" "You wanted me pressing buttons!"! Yay for CGI Beastie cackling maniacally!

Little tiny quibbles:

- I'd have been far more affected by Jefferson's heroic death if it hadn't mirrored Rose not getting to the gate in time in Dalek...although actually, thinking about it now, I suppose Jefferson is Rose to Zack's Doctor, upstairs pressing buttons, so maybe that was cleverer than I thought. And it made me think of, um, the laird chappie in Tooth and Claw, too. It didn't shock me like it should have.

- Rose not noticing she was kind of responsible, because she stopped Jefferson killing Toby.

- If they could get up through gratings from the ventilation shaft to the rest of the base, why didn't Jefferson? Why didn't they do it earlier than they did? Or was there just one grating that happened to be handily placed?

- Screechy head-holding from the oodles of Ood, just like from the Cybermen and various other people. Um, aliens. Things.

In general, best story and execution so far this series. Props to Matt Jones and James Strong. Liked David Tennant a lot too - there wasn't too much manic gurning this time, which has really been putting me off him. Plus he looks cute in a space suit. The episodes managed to have action, shippiness if you wanted to see it that way, big spiritual issues, big personal issues, heroism...everything, without seeming to batter you over the head with any of it.

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sloopjonb
Jun. 10th, 2006 06:56 pm (UTC)
Ventilation shafts - two references spring to mind - a general nod to the sci-fi cliche - and a specific one to Sigourney Weaver's complaint "Why is it always ventilation shafts?" in 'Galaxy Quest'.

And that Beast was so a Balrog.
pickwick
Jun. 10th, 2006 07:17 pm (UTC)
Ah! Yes, the Galaxy Quest one makes particular sense. Heh. Must watch that film again.

And yes, it was disturbingly similar to a Balrog...even had the fire.
kaiserdad
Jun. 11th, 2006 01:52 am (UTC)
Absolute lack of guilt about killing Oods=if it's ugly you can kill it), spacecraft=ventilation shafts (at least they didn't peer though grills in this one. The Beast was from "Legends"?
tanngrisnir
Jun. 11th, 2006 11:07 am (UTC)
The ventilation shaft reference: crawling through ventilation shafts has been a standard cliché of SF and action-adventure films and TV for decades. So Rose was saying, "It's a ventilation shaft, how else are we going to get from here to there?" and Jefferson is acknowledging the popular cultural reference.

It is nice to know that in the far future, drama will still be relying on the same clichés.

As for the guilt thing: sparing Toby was the right thing to do then, but it had bad consequences. Exactly how guilty she should feel is debatable, given that they were all trying to cope from moment to moment in a rapidly developing situation of great peril, but if she did feel guilty it probably wouldn't have been there and then at the moment she's dispatched Toby, but some time later, in the Tardis, when things are a bit more calm and she has had time to reflect.

I think that story is the best of the new series, Eccleston and Tennant, so far.
donbert
Jun. 11th, 2006 11:26 am (UTC)
I feel sorry for real Toby, but at least he got to be the first human to get sucked into a black hole!

Apart from Cutey, I mean Scooti last week...

If they could get up through gratings from the ventilation shaft to the rest of the base, why didn't Jefferson?

And how did the oxygen know to stay in the ventilation shaft and not escape up into the corridor or vice versa?

pickwick
Jun. 11th, 2006 02:33 pm (UTC)
Ha, good point about the oxygen! And I'd forgotten Scooti got sucked into the black hole too...
arborophile
Jun. 11th, 2006 04:56 pm (UTC)
Someone said to me last week that they'd seen 'Event Horizon' when I asked what they thought of it..but then that film was crap..agree with all above..really enjoyed it! :)
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