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Eve Online

Sitting on the bus, I thought of several things I was going to post here, but I've forgotten most of them again.

Have any of you heard of the Eve Online game? One of my colleagues asked me, as resident geek, if it was suitable for her 14-year-old son. Sadly, I didn't have a clue, though I was able to be vaguely reassuring about MMORPGs in general. He's nearly 15, pretty sensible and unlikely to be shocked by the occasional swearie-word, and won't give out his address and phone number to the masses of paedophiles swarming the internet. If anyone knows any reason why Eve would be a bad thing for him to sign up to, speak now or forever hold your peace...

Heading out tonight to the Free Candy Sessions at the Liquid Ship, cos my friend Andy's playing. Haven't made it to one of his gigs for...far too long! I had to beg the bosses to let me change my shift, and I only get off at 8 if there isn't any urgent urgent work - fingers crossed!

Work, yes. That was the plan. Must do some work.


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May. 4th, 2006 11:49 am (UTC)
All about Eve
pentane is a serious Eve player. He'll be able to tell you anything you want to know about it.
May. 4th, 2006 11:59 am (UTC)
Re: All about Eve
*splorf* at the subject line :)

I've asked him, thank you!
May. 4th, 2006 11:59 am (UTC)
It's a big space-opera game --quite a lot of my D&D playing mates are into it. Suitable enough -there's lots of buying ships, tooling them up, accepting missions, joining factions, all that. I think my one query would be that a lot of players have been playing for a long time, have a lot of resources and it might be hard to break in at entry level. But it's reputable enough, AFAIK.
May. 4th, 2006 12:02 pm (UTC)
Good to know, thank you! It looks quite tempting from the main page, actually, and that description sounds a bit like Freelancer, which I love.

I think the guy's got a couple of friends who're also going to join, so at least they won't be alone in their n00b status...
May. 4th, 2006 07:08 pm (UTC)
Oh PLEASE could I borrow this icon!!!
May. 5th, 2006 01:09 pm (UTC)
Of course! I think the person who made it has others too, I've definitely seen one with the Gazebo in it :)
May. 4th, 2006 03:16 pm (UTC)
Suitable or not really depends. Here's some of the potential downsides (and I'll tool this to a lowest common denominator, assuming you know nothing even if I know it's not true):

1 - teamspeak (online voice chat) is pretty much required for serious operations.

2 - The game is complex. And by complex, I mean really complex. The tutorial takes 4 hours and it just tells you how to *do* the basics, not when and why to do them.

3 - The game is very open ended. I can think, offhand, of 5 different paths to success (piracy, manufacturing, running missions, combat, player run governing). There's, roughly speaking, a bajillion different skills to learn that all effect how you play the game.

(2+3)a - It's VERY VERY hard to decide what you want to do first. There's so many options, it's hard to know what's best. The vogue analogy to describe this scope is 'boiling the ocean'.

(2+3)b - the economy is about the closest thing you will find to a full blown laissez-faire capitalism. I use spreadsheets to track financials when making investment decisions. You don't *have* to, of course. In short, you buy ships, you have to insure them, you have to outfit them, there's dozens of skills that impact that. Just building a ship takes MONTHS to learn to do well and pick and learn the right skills to do.

4 - There's a lot of griefing. Ok, let me amend. Griefing is more overt and accepted than other MMOs (people always grief, in EVE, you expect it). In *theory* space with a security rating of 1.0 to 0.5 have CONCORD (the local police) enforcing the laws. People have found ways around that, or will just make your life difficult because they can. If you go into low security space, it's even worse. Get jumped by 4 people and killed? Pick up and move on, that's life. Did it cost you your last cash? Don't fly anything you can't risk losing is the axiom of the game. Don't ever cry about having a pack of bullies slap you around either, because you will get laughed at. You'll learn to avoid them, and you'll learn thick skin.

I could certainly provide some basic guidance for a new player, and I'm a member of a corporation that would welcome a new player.
May. 5th, 2006 01:11 pm (UTC)
Thanks so much! I've passed all that on. He's going to get the 14-day trial next week, I think, and can see how he gets on then.
May. 7th, 2006 10:46 am (UTC)
i Play eve, and its a good game, its an adults game not many young people play it as its a slow game, you cant just jump into the game and expect to be killing people straight away, it takes a long time to get good. But once you do its a great game. highly recomend it, as for paedophiles i doubt they would play this game to get little kids, WoW is more likely to house them, as i said EVE is more of an adults game.
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