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So we keep hearing about how it's Totally Racist for Scottish people (or Welsh or Irish, I guess) to support Anyone But England in the World Cup. We should all support England cos they're, like, our next-door neighbours. When Alex Salmond or Andy Murray mention in passing that they might not support England, they get a pasting from the English press.

But apparently it's Absolutely Fine for a national British news programme to say:

Now for England fans, the only good news so far in the World Cup is that France are doing even worse.

Because things that are racist when you say them about the English aren't racist when you say them about the French, one assumes.

(C4 News - you'll be able to see it on 4OD in a bit.)

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laerad
Jun. 22nd, 2010 12:56 pm (UTC)
I normally don't get involved in incendiary topics on other folks blogs (stop rolling your eyes Caz) But I would like to pick up on a few points that you made, or at least the way in which they were made.

You said that it is an "all too common" scottish view to hate all english people. I would say, having lived in Nottingham for a few months that it's not that uncommon for some english folk to be rude, disparaging and denigrating towards scots. My own team leader would greet me each and every morning by making some fairly offensive comments about the scottish. I encountered a number of drunken english folk who were only too happy to start making snide or outright aggressive comments when they heard my accent.

Beyond this I remember one classic moment when working in a call centre in Glasgow where a customer from the home counties demanded to speak to an english manager as he didn't want to deal with some ignorant scot.

I could go on about the heavy bias in television where english sporting news is covered in the national news broadcast while if you want scottish sporting events then it's only covered in the local news section but I'm sure we've all heard it before.

I'll admit to a sense of schadenfraude when england do badly in football, but I have the same sense if not more so when Rangers do badly. I have no issues with individual english folk, I get on really well most that I meet but I also really enjoy it when english teams fall on thier faces.

It is unfair to make broad sweeping statements about "commonly held" scottish views. Especially when it appears to be held up to show how bad one side of the equation is and not the other.
pickwick
Jun. 22nd, 2010 02:52 pm (UTC)
Good points, all. Scots do get hassle in England. Look at all the whining from some English people about "being run by Scots", too.
da_pol
Jun. 22nd, 2010 03:20 pm (UTC)
*flashback*

Small oikish me who has just dared to move to Aylesbury speaking a rather broad wierd dialect that's part Ayrshire lallans, part Weegie and part Highland Gaelic (I was doomed, wasn't I?) who gets down there and about the nicest thing anybody ever said to me was "Learn to speak English you ignorant sod".

*possibly* going full RP on them and calling them on the *slightest* grammatical flaw wasn't a nice thing to do, but yes - there's a lot of bigotry all ways in the UK, no matter which two regions you're looking at.

pickwick
Jun. 22nd, 2010 03:30 pm (UTC)
Hahaha, excellent, though, I'd have gone grammar nazi too.

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