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Worst ep of the whole reboot - even worse than Fear Her, if that's possible. Not worth a proper review, except to note that James Corden wasn't the worst thing about the episode by a long way.

Next week looks good though.

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matgb
Jun. 12th, 2010 06:40 pm (UTC)
So not just me then.

Some very nice ideas within it though. Very reminicent of, oh, the whole RTD era in that respect.

And Corden thinks every man with a close female friend is actually in love with her. As is the writer.

Ah well.
pickwick
Jun. 12th, 2010 06:57 pm (UTC)
Not just you!

I just checked and it was Gareth Roberts who wrote it - he's not usually that terrible! Something went wrong, though.
zagreb2
Jun. 12th, 2010 06:56 pm (UTC)
I thought it was brilliant, possibly my favourite of this series so far (it's vying with "Amy's Choice"). Well written, funny, typically excellent performance from Smith and shades of both Spaced and M R James' "Number 13".
pickwick
Jun. 12th, 2010 06:58 pm (UTC)
Ha, I thought it was terribly written, both plot and script-wise :-> Amy's Choice is probably my favourite too, though.
momentsmusicaux
Jun. 12th, 2010 07:04 pm (UTC)
Oh god. Should I not even watch it?

Fear Her was terribly terribly dire. I had erased it from my memory. Thanks for bringing it back.
pickwick
Jun. 12th, 2010 07:07 pm (UTC)
Sorry about that ;) Quite a few people seem to have liked it, so it might be a Marmite ep like Love & Monsters.
momentsmusicaux
Jun. 13th, 2010 08:34 am (UTC)
Huh yeah. I rather liked it.

The final bit with overcoming the ship with some handwaving was a bit weak but overall it was good fun.
londonkds
Jun. 12th, 2010 07:04 pm (UTC)
I mostly liked it, although not as much as I enjoyed Fear Her.
pickwick
Jun. 12th, 2010 08:22 pm (UTC)
There's always one!
strange_complex
Jun. 12th, 2010 07:54 pm (UTC)
I was expecting something as bad as Fear Her, which probably helped a great deal - because my expectations were so low, I was able to enjoy it. But the actual plot was a pile of old pants.
pickwick
Jun. 12th, 2010 08:24 pm (UTC)
The plot was awful, and I hated the whole "if you don't travel the world and move to the big city to work, you're a failure (unless you've found twu wuv)" thing. I might have issues :D
strange_complex
Jun. 12th, 2010 09:36 pm (UTC)
Yes, that was also annoying. The whole issue of whether it's 'better' to find satisfaction at home or travel in the TARDIS (or Kansas vs. Oz in another setting) is obviously meant to be central to this season, but I don't feel it's really been addressed very satisfactorily so far.
pickwick
Jun. 12th, 2010 09:43 pm (UTC)
No - it's not something that can be resolved, and they seem to have come at it from all the wrong angles.
daibhid_c
Jun. 12th, 2010 09:41 pm (UTC)
Funny, I had the opposite problem: once Sophia had decided that she could leave Nowheresville and do something interesting with her life, I hated that the climax depended on her deciding not to...
pickwick
Jun. 12th, 2010 09:45 pm (UTC)
Actually, now that you mention it, that's annoying TOO. Grr.
luckykaa
Jun. 12th, 2010 08:04 pm (UTC)
Not all that satisfying, but wouldn't say it was that bad. Had its moments.

Next week is part one of the finale.

Was this the amy-lite ep? If so where was the doctor-lite episode?
pickwick
Jun. 12th, 2010 08:25 pm (UTC)
I figured this was the Amy-lite ep - she wasn't in the main story much at all, all her bits would have been filmed separately. But no, I haven't noticed a Doctor-lite one!
cavalorn
Jun. 12th, 2010 08:34 pm (UTC)
I just kept jumping up and down screaming 'It's another piece of your own TARDIS, you clod, that's why it's calling you the correct pilot!'
pickwick
Jun. 12th, 2010 09:42 pm (UTC)
Shit, I noticed it looked TARDISy but didn't make that connection.
londonkds
Jun. 13th, 2010 07:45 am (UTC)
I also thought it looked like a reuse of some of the set pieces for the Dalek Emperor in Parting of the Ways.
momentsmusicaux
Jun. 13th, 2010 08:35 am (UTC)
Oh!
I didn't notice that!

But the TARDIS doens't have any kind of hologram system...
cavalorn
Jun. 13th, 2010 08:57 am (UTC)
But it does! It's twice activated an emergency hologram: once in The Parting of the Ways, and once in Blink.
momentsmusicaux
Jun. 13th, 2010 10:30 am (UTC)
Oh hell. So it has!

But that looked like the Doctor... though we didn't properly see what this one looked like.
momentsmusicaux
Jun. 13th, 2010 10:30 am (UTC)
Yeah but hang on, the TARDIS would never eat people!
cavalorn
Jun. 13th, 2010 10:47 am (UTC)
It might if it was so damaged that it no longer knew quite what it was doing. As the Doctor himself says to it, it's stupid.

(Incredibly reminiscent of the thicky-thick clockwork robots from Girl in the Fireplace, actually.)
pickwick
Jun. 13th, 2010 03:07 pm (UTC)
Which of course is Moff.

This really better all tie up beautifully in the last two eps...
surliminal
Jun. 12th, 2010 10:37 pm (UTC)
First ep I've enjoyed in ages!!

Matt Smith can't so proper Who so they may as well let him do the improper version :-)

pickwick
Jun. 13th, 2010 03:08 pm (UTC)
Haha, aww, I like Matt as the Doctor. But I like him with fluffy wet hair too...
kniblet
Jun. 13th, 2010 04:24 am (UTC)
I liked it!
pickwick
Jun. 13th, 2010 03:09 pm (UTC)
Most people seemed to, to my slight surprise!
marrog
Jun. 13th, 2010 12:46 pm (UTC)
I don't get it - I didn't think it was magnificent and the end was stupid but I quite enjoyed the episode - I like the way this series has messed around with tone.

Reading this I feel a little like I missed the memo where it told me I was supposed to hate this ep for some reason... Was it because there was football in it?
pickwick
Jun. 13th, 2010 03:10 pm (UTC)
It was because it had James Corden in!

No, I was just grumpy about it when I wrote this. And I really hate broad sitcom cringe humour.
marrog
Jun. 13th, 2010 03:19 pm (UTC)
I'm starting to realise looking at more commentary that Corden seems to have been a big factor, yes. I though he was pretty good.
pickwick
Jun. 13th, 2010 03:28 pm (UTC)
Yeah, he wasn't terrible, actually. Better actor than writer!
sudge
Jun. 13th, 2010 02:39 pm (UTC)
No force on earth could convince me that this episode was worse than the Silurian two parter, but it wasn't spectacular by any means. It was actually just entirely forgettable.

As for the resolution of the carnivorous spaceship stuff, I don't think it was that bad. I saw it less as "travelling and being busy and whatnot = good and staying put = bad" so much as it was "doing what you want = good, not doing what you want out of fear and lack of confidence = bad." It took the everyman saying the thing he was too scared to say to save the day. The whole bit with the girl talking about how she couldn't go help apes or whatever because she had no qualifications was just the typical lack of confidence people have before the Doctor shows up.

Love and Monsters > The Lodger > Silurian bullshit > Fear Her. None of them particularly good, though.
pickwick
Jun. 13th, 2010 03:15 pm (UTC)
Dude, he said "if you stay in a call centre job rather than going to muck about with orang-utans then you're a failure", pretty much. I'm all for following your dreams, but this was saying that if you don't follow...pretty much every thought that comes into your head, chucking in your job and life and mates to do so, you're a failure. (I mostly think it was the word "failure" that annoyed me, plus the slam on call centres, cos, you know, I have mates who work in call centres and have very fulfilling lives, thankyouverymuch. Mostly outside the call centre, mind you.)

THE POWER OF WUV SAVES THE DAY. Fucksake. *mutters* ;)

Also I hate that type of comedy, and it was broad and totally out of character and ARGH. The Doctor - even Eleven - can fit in fine with humans.
sudge
Jun. 14th, 2010 06:25 pm (UTC)
Sigh, I'll need to watch it again to find the offending material...
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