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So there's this election thing soon....

The most recent reason why I'm definitely not voting Labour came in through my letterbox today.

20/04/2010

Now, I don't know whether this leaflet was printed and/or posted before last Thursday, when there could have been some justification for saying that the main election was a two-horse race.



But even if it was, the inside says:

20/04/2010

The first paragraph's an outright lie. Whenever the leaflet was printed, the option of a hung parliament was being talked about. Even more annoyingly, they're conflating "control of the country" and "control of Glasgow", on purpose. The Conservatives are not, and have not been for decades, Labour's principal opposition in Scotland. They're usually fighting for 4th. The result in this constituency in 2005 was:

Labour : Mohammad Sarwar : 13,518
Liberal Democrat : Isabel Nelson : 4,987
SNP : Bill Kidd : 4,148
Conservative : Richard Sullivan : 1,757
Scottish Green : Gordon Masterton : 1,372
Scottish Socialist : Marie Gordon : 1110

The Conservatives were in fourth, a long way back. The main contenders here - though it is quite a safe seat, obviously - are the Lib Dems and the SNP. The SNP won here in the Scottish Parliament elections, but that's got different consituency boundaries. Conservatives are nowhere to be seen, and have no chance of getting in anywhere in Glasgow. (And yes, the current Labour MP is standing down, and Labour's candidate for his seat is...his son.) The Labour leaflet mentions the Tories six times - always as "Tories" rather than "Conservatives" - and the SNP once. You wouldn't know there was anyone else standing. And the one mention of the SNP is to say that Sarwar will "argue for the reinstatement of the Glasgow Airport Rail Link", which, since it was an SNP policy, must be a devolved issue that he will have absolutely no input into.

So, yeah. Most politicians lie or at least spin frantically on their leaflets, but in case you didn't know: it isn't a two-horse race, and voting Lib Dem is looking more and more unlikely to let the Conservatives in.

Too much politics? Have a picture of the cat downstairs with the mouse I rescued from her.

14/04/2010

Edit: ALSO I am worried about the policy "Carry a knife, go to jail". Am I going to be arrested on the way home from IKEA?

Comments

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startron
Apr. 20th, 2010 08:18 pm (UTC)
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa

I wonder if this guy has heard about that Icelandic volcano? You know, the one in Iceland? Went off or something, I hear.
pickwick
Apr. 20th, 2010 08:21 pm (UTC)
He has never heard of it, but if it did happen, it's all because PEOPLE VOTED CONSERVATIVE. It would never have happened with a Labour MP >:-(
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dermfitz
Apr. 20th, 2010 08:21 pm (UTC)
And so much unnecessary capitalisation.
pickwick
Apr. 20th, 2010 08:24 pm (UTC)
Maybe I should send feedback.
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miss_next
Apr. 20th, 2010 08:41 pm (UTC)
Mole thinks all politicians should be given a cuddly on entry to the House of Commons, and be obliged to cuddle it during the session. His theory is that everyone would be so much nicer as a result.

I think it's a wonderful idea. :-)
pickwick
Apr. 20th, 2010 08:48 pm (UTC)
I think that's a fabulous idea, yes! They might slow down enough to think, occasionally.
zotz
Apr. 20th, 2010 08:45 pm (UTC)
The alternative to Labour for Glasgow Central is probably an SNP member. Nationally, this would increase (slightly, because it's likely anyway) the chance of a conservative administration. Viewed as discussing a national outcome, it's arguably oversimplified but not actually untrue.

When this leaflet was printed - weeks ago, as far as I can tell - a hung parliament didn't look particularly likely. It was much discussed, but it was much discussed in '92 as well and didn't end up being particularly close. As recently as last week (paras 5 & 6) a whole bunch of pollsters were asked what they thought the likely outcome was. Every single one opted for a Tory majority.
pickwick
Apr. 20th, 2010 08:51 pm (UTC)
Oh, I know they're generally pretty careful to avoid outright lies - I expect you can get in trouble for them, heh. And I know everyone spins. This just seemed pretty blatant scaremongering, and I don't like them reducing things to a two-party system at the same time they're claiming they support PR.
zotz
Apr. 20th, 2010 08:54 pm (UTC)
AV is not PR, and I'm not aware of anyone from the party claiming that it is.

Actually it's hard to get into official trouble for actually lying in politics. You may well get caught and look terrible or drive people to your opponents, but normal advertising standards don't actually apply.
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zotz
Apr. 20th, 2010 09:52 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't be so sure about that. The swing to LD seems to be smaller in Scotland than in England (although bigger than in Wales) and political honeymoons can be brutally short these days. Back in the early Eighties the SDP used to talk about "breaking the mould of British politics" on the basis of similar figures. When the '83 General Election came along, the mould unfortunately turned out more robust than they thought. The SNP were constantly on the crest of waves too . . . they finally got in by one seat and haven't really overturned things as they thought they would.

I mean, I hope you do well, but I don't think it'll be as dramatic as you suggest, simply because things so rarely are.
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matgb
Apr. 21st, 2010 12:35 am (UTC)
LEaflet would've been sent to printers for distribution a few weeks ago minimum, assuming it's the addressed to you mailing which is what it looks like; we got similar fromt hem last week.

We also got a Tory leaflet today with almost the same message.

They're scared. This is good.
bohemiancoast
Apr. 21st, 2010 07:26 am (UTC)
We'd better not get leaflets like that here, where LD were second last time and Con are distant trailing third. But now you've alerted me I'll keep an eye out. I'm already using election propaganda to teach my daughter about different forms of untruth.

And the Green parliamentary candidate knocked on our door and made *no attempt* to canvas for the general election. Instead, he pressed me to vote green for the council seat. I probably should have asked whether he's suggesting that Green supporters vote tactically in the general election (for LD, presumably).
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jospixies
Apr. 21st, 2010 09:00 pm (UTC)
ah a third option, who'd a thunk it??
I got a letter supposedly from DC tory boy himself today, it was so badly written I have actually kept it for when I get back to my English studies. I enjoyed political rhetoric muchly, and frankly that letter sucked sour apples! And after all I do need a bad example to put against some good Obama speeches! :D

After recent knife madness in my family, I was appalled to find my 71year old gran still carrying a knife, so much I got all squeaky at her! She said she needed it in case she needed to slice apples or something while she was out, so I asked her when the last time she had needed to do that was. She now no longer carries a knife...or at least that's what she's told me. She thought it stupid that she could get sent down for 4 years, 'I'm just a little old lady'. Last I saw that didn't make the knife any less hurty. bah, the mind boggles.
pickwick
Apr. 25th, 2010 08:45 pm (UTC)
I haven't had anything from the Tories yet. Maybe they've just decided to save money and not bother with Glasgow :D

Apples o.O
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