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The personal is political

Hurray.

- Food has been had

- Mood is therefore better

- Work has stopped being quite as insane

- Though now that I've been called in today, I'm working for 70 hours in 8 days - nice!

- M is still making bookshelves, heh. 3 hours, indeed. Blokes.

So, a poll, to see how other people feel about the argument I was having last night. "Tax avoidance" is when people find legal loopholes and ways to avoid paying tax, like offshore accounts and so on, as opposed to "tax evasion", which is illegal.

Poll #1139068 Tax Avoidance

Is tax avoidance immoral?

Yes
9(37.5%)
No
13(54.2%)
Snowflake (I will comment to explain)
2(8.3%)


(For reference, this New Statesman article, pointing out that tax avoidance and tax planning loses the government £33bn a year.)

Comments

( 8 comments — Comment )
speakr2customrs
Feb. 15th, 2008 08:38 pm (UTC)
It pays my wages and so I'm hardly going to condemn it.
pickwick
Feb. 16th, 2008 01:36 pm (UTC)
Heh, yeah, fair point...
matgb
Feb. 15th, 2008 11:56 pm (UTC)
Tax avoidance is made possible because the Govt insists on an overly complicated system that's full of loopholes and catches.

I think tax avoidance should be something everyone should try, because the only way to stop it is to sort the tax code out, which'll only happen if everyone figures out how to avoid stuff.
pickwick
Feb. 16th, 2008 01:38 pm (UTC)
I think I don't know enough about it - I thought some of it was because of the difference between UK and furrin laws...

I can't be arsed figuring out all the loopholes, I don't think it's worth it for my amount of money. So basically I'm sulking that other people do something I can't be bothered to do, heh.
ruudboy
Feb. 16th, 2008 12:50 am (UTC)
It's amoral.
pickwick
Feb. 16th, 2008 01:39 pm (UTC)
Interesting; people were arguing on Thursday that tax has nothing to do with morals, it's pure economics and politics, but I don't really agree.
gwinniegirl
Feb. 17th, 2008 01:22 am (UTC)
I wouldn't say it's immoral as such. I obviously wish it didn't go on, but that's beside the point. I would say that if the Govt wants this extra cash so badly they need to set about closing up these loopholes that make tax avoidance possible, and make it clear that tax avoidance is going to become illegal. It really comes down to how much it would cost them in time and money to put such an operation into practice, whether they would be willing to do so, and whether it would be worth their while in the long run. The NS article fails to tackle that part. It also takes quite an idealistic view of what might possibly happen if they did manage to collect all this money in future. I am afraid I am a complete cynic and agree with the author of the article, who mentioned that I may think the Govt would waste it all (probably on MPs' expense accounts!). :(
pickwick
Feb. 17th, 2008 11:39 am (UTC)
I think I don't know enough about it! I thought that the loopholes were caused by the difference between UK and foreign laws, and that ones that could be closed in UK law had been, and they kept changing the laws every year to try and avoid it...

I agree the government would probably waste the money, but I think they waste my council tax too and I still pay it! Well, usually. Note to self: must pay council tax.
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